Comments on: Threatening the economy? http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904 A Reasonable Man. Commentry on travelling, telecoms & technology and what is happening in the world. Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:28:20 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Simon http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904&cpage=1#comment-22604 Simon Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:54:50 +0000 http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904#comment-22604 My guidance councilor said I couldn't go to college. Should have listened to her then I wouldn't be stuck here doing a PhD in Physics with a degree and masters behind me. She knew her stuff alright. My guidance councilor said I couldn’t go to college.

Should have listened to her then I wouldn’t be stuck here doing a PhD in Physics with a degree and masters behind me. She knew her stuff alright.

]]> By: SK http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904&cpage=1#comment-22307 SK Wed, 23 May 2007 18:20:43 +0000 http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904#comment-22307 Matt, I said I would annonomise, more than seperate! :-) Matt, I said I would annonomise, more than seperate! :-)

]]> By: SK http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904&cpage=1#comment-22306 SK Wed, 23 May 2007 18:19:59 +0000 http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904#comment-22306 Hi Treasa, you are right about the experience thing. But other parts of my company are hiring grads too. I was sloppy in using IT as a descriptor. I have given out to people about it in the past. It is like saying "I work in healthcare". I should have said in telecoms. But in my IT days we struggled as well. Hi Treasa, you are right about the experience thing. But other parts of my company are hiring grads too.

I was sloppy in using IT as a descriptor. I have given out to people about it in the past. It is like saying “I work in healthcare”.

I should have said in telecoms. But in my IT days we struggled as well.

]]> By: Treasa http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904&cpage=1#comment-22305 Treasa Wed, 23 May 2007 18:02:23 +0000 http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904#comment-22305 In my case it was marketing tbh. But I still went off and did translation and interpreting. Guidance counsellors should also be saying "and it doesn't matter if you decide in five years time you want to try something different". but that's a whole other story. In my case it was marketing tbh. But I still went off and did translation and interpreting.

Guidance counsellors should also be saying “and it doesn’t matter if you decide in five years time you want to try something different”.

but that’s a whole other story.

]]> By: laura http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904&cpage=1#comment-22302 laura Wed, 23 May 2007 17:31:48 +0000 http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904#comment-22302 Guidance Counsellors have two jobs for females: Nursing Hair Dressing I can't speak for male student recommentations. I did myself a favour in school. I ignored the guidance counsellor the school had to offer. I went to the guidance counsellor in the university I was applying to. She asked me what I was interested in. That is the most important thing. It's hard to believe the current generation aren't interested in studing computer science, or telecoms or engineering. Its hard to believe guidance counsellors have a bigger influence over fifth and sixth year students than their parents. Who knows why they aren't taking up these courses. Guidance Counsellors have two jobs for females:
Nursing
Hair Dressing

I can’t speak for male student recommentations. I did myself a favour in school. I ignored the guidance counsellor the school had to offer. I went to the guidance counsellor in the university I was applying to. She asked me what I was interested in. That is the most important thing.

It’s hard to believe the current generation aren’t interested in studing computer science, or telecoms or engineering. Its hard to believe guidance counsellors have a bigger influence over fifth and sixth year students than their parents.

Who knows why they aren’t taking up these courses.

]]> By: Treasa http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904&cpage=1#comment-22293 Treasa Wed, 23 May 2007 11:55:34 +0000 http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904#comment-22293 just on the note of finding qualified people etc etc etc...You work in the industry...you should know that "IT industry" is unspeakably broad as a label. Take me, for example. I'm hopelessly not qualified for either your consulting or telco roles despite 7 years experience in mission critical IT systems and some postgraduate qualifications in same. I'll bet you'd be useless in my role though. You also want experienced people. No matter how many IT grads are coming out of the college, they won't fit your profile either. This is what happens - to some extent - when employment in a sector tightens up - the supply fills with inexperienced staff but demand is limited to experience..and cos there's a nominal excess of supply over demand, you find yourself in your position. In truth, you need to start looking at hiring in at bottom level and giving the experience rather than exploiting it. On the subject of the numbers doing IT - I can't swear to it but if guidance counsellors are saying "no future" it would be interesting, economically, to find out what they are saying does have a future. It couldn't all be construction. The truth is people should also have an eye on what they are interested in, not just on "what'll make me more money". Aptitude rather than greed should be a key indicator. That it often isn't is a reflection of our society. just on the note of finding qualified people etc etc etc…You work in the industry…you should know that “IT industry” is unspeakably broad as a label. Take me, for example. I’m hopelessly not qualified for either your consulting or telco roles despite 7 years experience in mission critical IT systems and some postgraduate qualifications in same. I’ll bet you’d be useless in my role though.

You also want experienced people. No matter how many IT grads are coming out of the college, they won’t fit your profile either. This is what happens – to some extent – when employment in a sector tightens up – the supply fills with inexperienced staff but demand is limited to experience..and cos there’s a nominal excess of supply over demand, you find yourself in your position. In truth, you need to start looking at hiring in at bottom level and giving the experience rather than exploiting it.

On the subject of the numbers doing IT – I can’t swear to it but if guidance counsellors are saying “no future” it would be interesting, economically, to find out what they are saying does have a future. It couldn’t all be construction. The truth is people should also have an eye on what they are interested in, not just on “what’ll make me more money”. Aptitude rather than greed should be a key indicator. That it often isn’t is a reflection of our society.

]]> By: Matt http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904&cpage=1#comment-22292 Matt Wed, 23 May 2007 11:45:30 +0000 http://www.sliabh.net/?p=904#comment-22292 What happened to all that talk of separating your blog from your work?! What happened to all that talk of separating your blog from your work?!

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