Richard Boyd Barrett is an enemy of the people.
I spotted a story in the Irish Times this morning about Richard Boyd Barrett of the Socialist Workers Party People Before Profit Alliance claiming that the Dun Laoghaire Harbour Company (DLHC) is planning to demolish the Carlisle pier and sell the harbour to Stena. Both have been denied by the DLHC.
Now I am not an official of the DLHC, but as a boat owner and harbour users I spend a lot of time talking to people who do know what is going on, and have a keen interest in the future of the harbour. Unlike RBB who has a banana attitude to development in Dun Laoghaire. I would like to think as a group, we the harbour users, have our ear to the ground on future plans.
At the moment my understanding is that the derelict terminal on the Carlilse pier is to be pulled down (as the DLHC said), because it is a) derelict, and b) contains asbestos. The pier itself certainly is not going to be removed. It is far too valuable. But as the plans for building something new there are on hold (partially because of RBB’s campaigns) it will just be turned into a car park and winter boat storage. While I would prefer to see it replaced with something that the public could benefit from, at least the removal of the current eyesore will open up the views of the harbour for the public.
The other claim that RBB has made is that Stena will buying the harbour. I don’t exactly see how this would work or benefit them, but the word that is going around the waterfront is that Stena will actually be leaving Dun Laoghaire when they retire the current HSS in a few years, and will move to Dublin Port instead. Time will tell whether RBB or I are better informed about what is going on, but I would like to think that as a serious user of the harbour I have more of an interest, and am better informed than that demagogue.
And that brings me to my next point, for all his high and mighty rhetoric Richard Boyd Barrett is actually an obstacle to the public getting the best use out of Dun Laoghaire’s best amenity. He opposed the redevelopment of the Carlisle pier on the grounds that it would deny it to the public and make it the “exclusive property of the super-wealthy”, which to be frank is horse shit. All the development plans included the provision of public spaces, including a water front park. Right now the pier is a derelict building, and historically it was a ferry terminal, so it never was a public amenity.
RBB has also opposed the expansion of the very successful marina. Instead he wants to “develop the harbour as a working harbour – developing traditional sea related industries and activities, and expanding public access“. I am not sure what traditional sea related industries are, but I know exactly what is needed to improve public access – more places to keep boats.
As far as the likes of RBB is concerned, boat owners are the wealthy. Well Laura and I have been boat owners for three years, and we are a long way feeling wealthy. It often surprises people we tell them “>how much boat you can get for about €5-6,000, which is about what we paid for Chico. That will buy you a decent sized 2nd hand boat that is capable of sailing all around Ireland if you want to do that. That certainly is within the reach of most people in this country and not just the “super rich”. I know civil servants, a plumber and an electrician who own “yachts”. Yeah, if you want to own an 40′ floating pleasure palace you will need big bucks. But a look around Dun Laoghaire harbour with an educated eye will show that most of the boats there are actually quite modest.
The real problem and expense with boat owning is where to keep the thing. Until the marina was built in 2001 the only option was a swing mooring. There weren’t many of these and the waiting period was about a decade. The 450 berth marina arrived (over RBB’s objections) and was full within a year or two which showed the huge level of demand. When Laura and I were discussing buying a boat three years ago our problem was not the purchase price, but getting a spot in the marina to keep it. Luckily they expanded the marina that year and we got one of the new berths.
As Chico is a sail boat our biggest expense now is the marine fees of about €2300 per year. That is the main block for people looking to take up sailing. How would you get around that? Well how about some competition in the provision of marina berths in Dun Laoghaire to drive prices down? That has been proposed, but of course it is being objected to by RBB again.
The level of recreational boat ownership in Ireland lags far behind the rest of Europe (in Stockholm there is a boat for every 6 people) despite us being an island nation. Giving people more options and ability to get involved in water sports would plenty of benefits from job creation to tourism. But don’t expect a short sighted, mean spirited idiot like Richard Boyd Barrett to see that.
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I read this story this morning and wondered with amusement would it raise your blood pressure!
I hate Richard Boyd Barrett with a passion and all that he stands for. His oposition to any sort of commercial development in the baths is another example of his clulessness. He states that commercial development would ruin the baths. Yet, commercial development like a restaurant upstairs or a private swimming club would keep the baths going. What Dun Laoghaire Bath’s need (and the Blackrock baths) is to follow the Australian model, out door pool, swimming club, life saving and nippers club and restaurant/dining facilities to take advantage of the spectacular views those baths provide.
ICEBERG anyone? Spetacular dining upstairs, fantastic sea baths downstairs. Open to the public? Yes. Public Ammenity? Yes. Maintaining valuable old buildings rather than letting them go to ruin? Yes. RBB is so far down his people before profit tunnel, he cannot see he is denying people use of amenities they could be enjoying.
I have always felt that the man is a little limited in his vision. Why not offer voters “People and Profit” rather than being exclusionary.
Was interested in this. I’m not sure what pier you’re talking about in Dun Laoghaire but I passed Blackrock baths a week ago and am disgusted that there appears to be no will to make them work for the local community.
We’re not good at collective good in this country sometimes I think.
the deliberate dereliction of dun laoghaire is nothing to do with rbb
I would argue that he is a big part of it because he objects to every plan for development there if he thinks that there might be anyone who might make a SHOCK! HORROR! “profit” from it.
read what i said, the deliberate dereliction of dun laoghaire is nothing to do with rbb, it has been implemented long before he was around, and your falling into the ‘anything is better then nothing’ trap which those implementing the deliberate dereliction of dun laoghaire have set for people like you.
Well Steve, “deliberate dereliction” is a pretty strong claim. Prove it. And tell me how exactly it benefits people to leave it derelict.
A lot of people put a lot of effort into floating real plans for improving Dun Laoghaire. All RBB has done is shout them down (vague waffle about “developing sea-related industries and activities” is not an alternative). I have never seen him propose realistic alternatives.
it well known that developers and councils run thing down so that people will be desperate to let anything they suggest building pass, don’t be naive.
again rbb is insignificant why do so much power on him he’s only been around for few years, this problem has been there for decades
“it is well known” is a pretty lame argument. And in the case of the pier and baths the only reason they have been let run down is because every attempot to develop them in any shape or form has been blocked.
The opposition to the baths was very popular and Richard only facilitated this opposition.
As for the question “why not People and Profit?” That is simple the acquisition of profit limatless profit is in opposition to the needs of humans.
See Golbal Financial Melt-Down for details. 700 billion for US banks while people starv!
Em Kieran, I am not sure what “limatless profit” is. But certainly there is no reason why the acqusition of profit cannot be people friendly as well. The only place a “profitless” societs has been attempted is in communist countries and every time it has been a disaster.
I was taking photographs of dereliction in South Dublin lately. I find it reprehensible that such dereliction be allowed litter the seafront in a town like DL.
No one is interested in limitless profit per se; but things have to at least pay for themselves, and in so doing, they generate knock on economic benefits to the wider community. Maybe you don’t understand it.
Such as you describe it, I have this image of Richard Boyd Barrett jumping on a populist bandwagon.
There is no reason why people and profit cannot work together in a reasonable manner. Currently, the status quo is that the people have nothing. Nothing. Just a pile of decaying swimming bath which is apparently more acceptable than profit. Suggesting that the global financial meltdown is proof that Dun Laoghaire is better off with the current situation rather than any private development at all is inherently puerile.
Oooo, photos of DL. I will look forward to them.
what a load of rubbish, 10,000 people signed the petition against that particular development which would have privatised the site, it can hardly be attributed to one person, one person’s opposition would get nowhere were all those people ‘jumping on the band wagon also’? the save our seafront supporters are not opposed to a development that includes public amenities, the deroliction of the baths is an unfortunate consequence but hardly rbb’s fault as there is nothing to prevent the council from maintaining their own property.. in fact they should be obliged to…
The problem is with the system of Government we have in which the people of this country have no real voice and are and must resort to confrontation and protest to have their voices heard.
We need to return to being a Direct Democracy as we were under the first constitution where by gathering enough signatures the people could call a referendum on any topic that they felt strongly enough about.It did not mean that whatever was voted on was automatically voted for by the people, but the people had the last say on mattered in their lives.Dev took this power away from the people under protest and gave it to the Oireachtas and left the people without a voice.Demonstration and confrontation are the only way we the people can get heard.This I believe is a waste of time and energy when we could just vote at local level on what is important locally.Demonstration and confrontation lead to disruption of businesses,delays in getting things done,and people sometimes getting hurt as in last weeks demonstrations outside the Dail.In extreem cases people die.How much better if we just changed the system and became more like the Swiss model of Direct Democracy where people have the power to effect real change when needed.Ther is never a strike or violent demonstrations in Switzerland.People don’t get angry,they just get things done.Lets CHANGE THE ‘SYSTEM’.
turns out the demolish of the old pier structure was illegal hmm http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0522/1224270894714.html
maybe it was just an accident, nope it was deliberate they knew what they were doing
rbb is enemy of the developers and property speculators(a concept you deny exists), but he’s really not that important cos the scheme would never have been finished before the bust.
Em Steve, can you tell me where I said there was no such thing as property speculators? It would be nice if you took the time to read what I wrote before you hopped in.
And if the original Carlisle development had been allowed to proceed it would have been finished well before now.